Thiel: Google has $50B, doesn't innovate
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What it is
A short CNN clip of Peter Thiel telling Google chairman Eric Schmidt that Google has huge cash reserves and does not know how to invest them. Thiel argues this signals a lack of innovation.
Recommended by 2 HN commenters across 2 different months, 2017 to 2023.
What Hacker News said
Recommends alexashka · 2017-09 · on “People Don’t Actually Want Equality, They Want Fairness”
It's not so much about tax rates and I haven't looked into it too deeply - although I'm sure the big companies hire the best accountants to use every loophole in existence. I am referring to this: [LINK] Companies should not be allowed to simply hang on to 250 billion dollars. Imagine what could be done in science, infrastructure, services etc if 10% of that money went towards those things. There's a great Peter Thiel clip about this that sums it up very well: [this video]
Recommends heimatau · 2020-09 · on “Ex-Google boss Eric Schmidt: US 'dropped the ball' on innovation”
Is no one going to talk about the hypocrisy? Eric Schmidt isn't a beacon of sensible innovation pushing America forward. Peter Thiel called him out eight years ago [1] and I strongly encourage you to watch the 4 min clip. [1] - [this video]
Cites oculusthrift · 2017-04 · on “Tesla Passes Ford by Market Value”
Ask Eric Schmidt why Google has billions laying around in cash. You don't actually have to since peter thiel did: [this video] You can skip to 3:00 for an answer.
Cites arcanus · 2017-05 · on “Apple has a record $250B in the bank”
I can't help but think of Peter Thiel's very appropriate comments (admittedly targeting GOOG, but still applies) here: [this video] As I read it: if AAPL had any idea at all what to do with this cash, they would deploy it. They are completely out of innovative ideas, and are just turning the product crank. Instead, they should return $$ to investors in the form of a dividend.
Cites whatyoucantsay · 2018-03 · on “Technology firms as a threat to basic liberties”
It's interesting you bring up Thiel with regards to Google. I haven't ever seen anyone so willing to slam their top leadership directly and on television. [this video] It's not clear at all that Google will be safer from anti-trust investigation now that Thiel has political influence either: > “Peter has indicated that if he takes the P.I.A.B. position he intends to take a comprehensive look at the U.S. intelligence community’s information-technology architecture. He is super-concerned about Amazon and Google”—and Facebook, less so. “He feels they have become New Age global fascists in terms of how they’re controlling the media, how they’re controlling information flows to the public, even how th
Cites est31 · 2019-04 · on “Google Decides to Monetize Maps”
Obligatory Peter Thiel statement on this (2012): [this video] > Google is no longer a technology company, and [...] it's basically [...] a search engine. The search technology was developed a decade ago, it's a bet that [...] no one else will come up with a better search technology so you invest in Google because you're betting against technological innovation in search, and it's like [...] a bank that generates enormous cash flows every year but you can't issue a dividend because the day you take that 30 billion and send it back to people you're admitting that you're no longer a technology company. Still relevant today.
Cites liamcardenas · 2021-05 · on “OpenAI Announces Funding for Startups”
I am a fan of Open AI, but is this not an admission that they raised more capital than they know how to deploy on research? Similarly, Peter Thiel once made a case that if Google ever paid a dividend it would be an admission that they are no longer a technology company and are instead a bet again innovation in search. [0] [0] [this video]
Cites e1g · 2021-06 · on “Ask HN: Why do so many large Tech companies buyback their stock?”
Peter Thiel expressed the same sentiment against Google and friends, even calling them non-tech companies [this video] The counter point is that nearly every one of these incredibly successful businesses is doing this, and they can’t all be incapable. Money never sets the speed limit for these companies. Some amount of money in the bank is too much even for your grandest of plans. Once you have 10x that, what else do you do.