Conrad Wolfram: Teaching kids real math with computers

TED · 362K views · 2010 · 19:20

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Why Hacker News recommends it

Cited in HN discussions of math and CS education reform as an argument that school math is boring because it is taught wrong.

What it is

Conrad Wolfram argues that the part of math taught in schools, hand calculation, is tedious and mostly irrelevant to real mathematics. He proposes teaching math through computer programming so students can tackle real problems.

Recommended by 2 HN commenters across 2 different months, 2012 to 2020.

What Hacker News said

Recommends marshallp · 2012-10 · on “The Unreasonable Ineffectiveness of Mathematics Education”

There's a few problems with the article. The rules argument he makes could instead be made for the more useful field of computer programming. Also, the reductionist paradigm is dead. It worked for finding laws of physics and some chemistry, but otherwise, in the most useful fields of today, like biology/materials/chemistry (high throughput methods), computer vision, search engines etc. the automated creation of hypotheses through machine learning is winning out. Conrad Wolfram gives a talk about the need for math education reform [this video] He uses the term mathematics, but completely removing that term and replacing it with computer programming and machine learning should be done. They sound c

Recommends kranzky · 2013-09 · on “The Commodore 64 Spike: A Freakonomics-ish Theory of CS Education”

But isn't maths boring at school because we're teaching it wrong? See Conrad Wolfram's TED Talk: [this video]

Cites Zhyl · 2020-04 · on “The Wolfram Physics Project”

Stephen Wolfram is well known in the industry as being a pompous, self-indulgent man. There was an old joke I heard which went: > Q: How do you know if Stephen Wolfram invented something? > A: He'll tell you. I saw a TED talk by Conrad Wolfram about using Mathematica as an educational tool [1]. I went to one of my tutorials and tried to discuss it with the Professor (we were encouraged to bring up basically anything we'd seen or encountered in our first few weeks of uni). His response was "I don't think we need to worry about what Conrad Wolfram is saying." By all accounts, Stephen and Conrad Wolfram are clever men. It is without a doubt that Mathematica is an extraordinary piece of software