Where in the world is it easiest to get rich? | Harald Eia | TEDxOslo
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HN uses it as a counterintuitive data point in debates on welfare states, social mobility and entrepreneurship.
What it is
Sociologist and comedian Harald Eia argues in a TEDxOslo talk that Nordic social democracies produce more rich people per capita than the US or UK. He credits high taxes, welfare and strong unions for creating a safety net that enables risk taking.
Recommended by 5 HN commenters across 6 different months, 2016 to 2023.
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Recommends okket · 2016-05 · on “GiveDirectly Planning to Give $30M in Basic Income to East Africa”
Just giving money will not work, see Saudi Arabia. They have all the money they can dream of and did not evolve. If you want it to work it needs 3 things: 1) Free Education 2) High Taxes 3) Strong Unions Sounds leftist? It may astonish you which countries have the highest ratio of rich persons per capita live. This and a good explanation can be found in "Where in the world is it easiest to get rich? (TEDxOslo)" [this video] Just giving money may help in short term anyway, but I doubt it is one solution for everything.
Recommends btilly · 2017-06 · on “A tale of two Canadas: Where you grew up affects your income in adulthood”
It was a tidbit that I ran across in [this video] which had some other interesting data points as well. Such as the fact that when you look at rich people per capita, it seems that social democracies like Canada, and Scandinavia create rich people more easily than the USA does. For example if you look for people worth $30million+ per million people, Canada has 186 while the USA has 126. That's about a third more per capita. And watching the video, you find that 42% of the children of the bottom 20% in the USA wind up in the bottom 20%. Very little of Canada does anything like that poorly.
Recommends willvarfar · 2018-04 · on “Yanis Varoufakis: Marx predicted our present crisis – and points the way out”
Here is an interesting related tedx talk about the proportion of rich people in Nordic socialist countries [this video]
Recommends willvarfar · 2018-05 · on “Both in rich and poor countries, universal health care brings huge benefits”
In these kinds of discussions I like to promote this interesting TEDx talk: [this video] "Where in the world is it easiest to get rich?" Spoiler: the talk shows that statistically the Nordic countries lead the world in millionaires and billionaires / capita, and in rags-to-riches. The talker offers the opinion that this is because its of the strong social safety net, education and healthcare. Living in Scandinavia of course I like to hear this ;)
Recommends StavrosK · 2019-05 · on “It's 2059, and the Rich Kids Are Still Winning – Ted Chiang”
I watched a very interesting TED talk related to this the other day. The premise is the question "Where in the world is it easiest to get rich?". The answer won't surprise you if I tell you the answer will surprise you. [this video]
Recommends karencarits · 2021-06 · on “Survey shows people no longer believe working hard will lead to a better life”
Well, it depends. This short tedxoslo had some nice points ("Where in the world is it easiest to get rich?" Hint: not the US): [this video] He's talking about social mobility from 8:30
Cites fergie · 2017-07 · on “Norway, where no salaries are secret”
No. Norway has extremely high salaries, and income tax that is pretty much equivalent to California (about 1/3 of your gross salary after deductions), in fact Norway is one of the easiest countries to become rich: [this video] You could argue that radical financial transparency is what causes this.
Cites mockingbirdy · 2018-07 · on “Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich”
> what about sharing it among the people who didn't have the same luck than you? That's one big thing what taxes are for: To redistribute wealth. And I have employees which earn good money. I don't know what you expect from me. > Some people can afford to take risks and earn even more while some simply cannot. That's why a solid social system is so important. It gives us the room to take risks because we can be sure that we can get food, shelter and healthcare. See [1]. [1]: [this video]