Ricardo Signes - 闇のEメール伝説

yapcasia · 7K views · 2011 · 39:42

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Why Hacker News recommends it

HN points people to it as a funny and sobering warning about why parsing, validating, or implementing email software is far harder than it looks.

What it is

Ricardo Signes' YAPC::Asia Tokyo 2011 talk on the legends and horrors of email: how messy the SMTP and email standards are in practice. The first few minutes are Perl-specific, but the rest applies to anyone handling email.

Recommended by 3 HN commenters across 3 different months, 2011 to 2021.

What Hacker News said

Strong rec JoyfulPanda · 2021-05 · on “Complexities of e-mail validation logic”

There is is awesome talk about E-Mail by Ricardo Signes: [this video] The first 5 minutes are perl specific, but the rest is email and just hilarious.

Recommends AngryParsley · 2011-11 · on “Move over HTTP it's SMTP's Turn to Shine”

The SMTP standard is complicated and crazy. RJBS from Pobox does a good job of scaring anyone thinking of writing an SMTP client or server: [this video]

Recommends k33l0r · 2013-09 · on “Email Validation Rules”

I found this talk by Ricardo Signes on email parsing to be an excellent primer into why email addresses (and emails in general) are terrible to parse: [this video]

Cites q3k · 2019-11 · on “How to run your own mail server (2017)”

Fun is a very curious way of putting it, considering how batshit crazy IMAP is. The rest of the involved email standards are also a huge dumpster fire. I'll let Ricardo Signes do the talking: [this video]