Microsoft is Forcing me to Buy MacBooks - Windows Modern Standby
Why Hacker News recommends it
HN links it as the standard reference whenever laptop sleep and battery drain on Windows come up, including the later point that nothing has improved.
What it is
Linus Tech Tips explains how Windows Modern Standby causes laptops to drain battery while asleep, arguing it makes Windows laptops hard to recommend compared to MacBooks.
Recommended by 1 HN commenters across 1 different months, 2022 to 2026.
What Hacker News said
Recommends chmod775 · 2022-12 · on “Tell HN: The ThinkPad X1 Carbon is an excellent MacBook replacement”
> After several nights of losing all my free time after work only to wake up the next morning to a dead laptop battery, I treated myself to an m2 13” mbp. LTT just did a video on this: [this video] tl;dw: It may not be a Linux/OS problem, but rather a BIOS problem, which would explain why nothing you did helped. Getting a MBP is valid fix if you disable "Wake for network access" on it.
Cites 411111111111111 · 2022-12 · on “More developers use Linux than Mac, according to 2022 StackOverflow survey”
Well, they said that a VP called LTT in response to their video, which is why I said supposedly. Original video: [this video] Follow-up: [LINK]
Cites ryukafalz · 2023-01 · on “Rant: Year of Linux on the Desktop (2022)”
> randomly wake up from sleep in my backpack That seems to be common to many laptops including those running Windows at this point in time: [this video]
Cites phowat · 2023-01 · on “Cosmic DE update: System76's new Linux desktop environment”
In all fairness, windows laptops don’t have functioning sleep either. Only apple nailed it. Edit: This is what I'm talking about: [this video]
Cites Dalewyn · 2023-02 · on “Saving Energy: Home Server That Automatically Suspends to RAM and Wakes Up Again”
Windows in particular is notorious as of late for brutally draining the battery while Sleeping[1]. [1]: [this video]
Cites MengerSponge · 2023-03 · on “Windows Market Share Drops to 57% in the US”
[this video] TL;DW: There's a bug in the implementation of windows modern standby that can cause it to activate energetically expensive operations while "asleep", and most PC manufacturers didn't bother to write drivers for the more effective, but less "feature rich" S3 sleep mode.
Cites drewg123 · 2023-03 · on “Laptop Brands with GNU/Linux Preinstalled”
Rather than a blanket "Linux Preinstalled", I'd like to know about S3 sleep support. Eg, it would be nice to know which laptops still support real S3 sleep, and not just the new "Windows modern standby" mode. I watched an LTT that indicates that Windows modern standby apparently doesn't even work right with Windows. ("Microsoft is Forcing me to Buy MacBooks - Windows Modern Standby" [this video] )
Cites dkjaudyeqooe · 2023-03 · on “Unix legend Ken Thompson announces he's switching From macOS To Raspberry Linux”
No that's not it. The issue is actually pretty involved, there is a LTT video on it, this is the bit I'm remembering: [this video]