2004: Howard Dean's infamous yell

CNN · 1.5M views · 2012 · 1:02

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Mostly cited as an example of how a single unflattering clip can sink a campaign.

What it is

CNN clip of Howard Dean's loud yell at a 2004 Iowa campaign event, which gained wide notoriety.

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Cites awb · 2022-08 · on “Outdoor Sound Propagation in the U.S. Civil War (1999)”

Here’s the broadcast: [this video] You can hear the crowd as well (maybe through his mic?). The thing watching this live on TV wasn’t the scream, but the gyrating hand movements and the gradual decent from a politician into a WWE wrestler voice as he’s naming a long list of states. The scream was actually more of a yippee kinda sound. But the disassociating thing for me was seeing him land a disappointing finish (3rd in Iowa) and then act like he’s a rock star about to headline a huge nationwide tour. Sitting at home, it’s like yeah, why don’t you try to win one first before you go bragging about how you’re going to win the next 10. So, for me it was the content + tone, not just the tone.

Critical cookiecaper · 2016-06 · on “The British are Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it”

Although I believe there is value to the IQ metric, I agree with you that raw intelligence should not be the way we choose our governors/reps/etc. As if democracy didn't have enough struggles, telecommunications (and especially television) have forever changed the way that the people choose their representatives. Superficialities are much more important now than they were pre-1960, and everything we get is filtered through the media outlets that control the television broadcasts; if they dislike someone, all they have to do is repeatedly re-broadcast a single unflattering yelp and that person's prospects are done. [0] We need to learn to deal with that. [0] [this video]

Critical devoply · 2016-11 · on “How Fake News Goes Viral: A Case Study”

Human brain is easily hijacked by memes, propagandists have been doing it for a century, now the masses are doing it too -- and they are mad (are the masses mad? or the propagandists? why not both? what's the truth? i don't know!). Richard Dawkins on memes: [LINK] For instance this meme sunk Howard Dean's campaign: [this video] Dan Quayle and the potato incident: [LINK]

Critical Asooka · 2019-02 · on “The Death of a Dreamer”

Just remember that Howard Dean's presidential campaign was killed just by him yelling "yeah" on TV[1] . My takeaway is that most journalists are unethical vultures that will kill you and pick apart your corpse for the tiniest shred of views. I would not really blame the current year fashion of SJWism, except in so far as I disagree with their censorious attitude and virtue signalling. 1: [this video]