Erlang Factory SF 2016 Keynote Phoenix and Elm – Making the Web Functional

Erlang Solutions · 23K views · 2016 · 55:28

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Why Hacker News recommends it

Pointed to as the best source on Phoenix Presence internals and for combining Phoenix with Elm.

What it is

A joint Erlang Factory 2016 keynote by Phoenix creator Chris McCord and Elm creator Evan Czaplicki on using the two together, including Phoenix.Presence design and PubSub optimizations.

Recommended by 2 HN commenters across 3 different months, 2016 to 2022.

What Hacker News said

Recommends chrismccord · 2016-03 · on “What makes Phoenix Presence special, and a sneak peek”

My Erlang Factory keynote also goes into the design considerations and PubSub layer optimizations that sits underneath Phoenix.Presence: [this video]

Recommends rdtsc · 2016-05 · on “A Farewell to FRP”

There is a nice talk from Erlang Factory 2016 called "Making the Web Functional with Phoenix and Elm" [this video]

Recommends rdtsc · 2016-11 · on “Elm for the Front End, Right Now”

Speaking of Elm I liked this video from Erlang Factory about using Phoenix and Elm together. They both have a functional flavors so I think it might appeal to same people: [this video] The first half is about Phoenix, the second about Elm. I don't know much about front-end stuff but I did like the Elm bit as an intro, especially the debugging and nice error messages part.

Cites yelnatz · 2016-03 · on “Managing two million web servers”

The Phoenix Framework (web framework for Elixir) already solves this for you.[1] It's called Phoenix.Presence. They used a combination of CRDTs with heartbeats to implement it. You are right, it is a hard problem because of the distributed nature of Erlang/Elixir. That's why Chris provided a framework level solution for it. [1] [this video] (Erlang Factory SF 2016 Keynote Phoenix and Elm – Making the Web Functional)

Cites qohen · 2016-06 · on “Integrating Elm and Phoenix Channels via Elm-Phoenix-socket”

I wonder if the same might happen to Elm, should Phoenix adopt it as their browser language of choice. There's definitely a connection there -- for what it's worth, the keynote at 2016's Erlang Factory conference was a shared talk between Chris McCord (creator of Phoenix) and Evan Czaplicki (creator of Elm), "Making the Web Functional" [0] [0] [this video]

Cites andy_ppp · 2022-04 · on “Conflict-Free Replicated Data Types (CRDT)”

Chris McCord had fun implementing a CRDT in Phoenix.Presence: [this video] (from about 17 mins by the looks of things).