Why No One Has Measured The Speed Of Light

Veritasium · 24.3M views · 2020 · 19:05

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Why Hacker News recommends it

Used as the standard reference in threads about light speed, clock synchronization and untestable assumptions in physics.

What it is

Veritasium explains why the one-way speed of light has never been measured, only the round-trip speed, since measuring it requires synchronized clocks that assume the answer. It explores the implications for relativity.

Recommended by 6 HN commenters across 7 different months, 2020 to 2024.

What Hacker News said

Strong rec aemreunal · 2020-12 · on “Well, Actually – Physics Answers”

Veritasium recently published a video [1] on why the speed of light can't be measured one way, only two ways (i.e. the speed it travels from point A to point B then back to point A). While I'm not privy to all the physics details of it, I found the video very compelling even as a thought experiment. [1]: [this video]

Strong rec travisgriggs · 2021-11 · on “How imaginary numbers were invented [video]”

I love Veritasium. Derek has done a number of videos that are awesome like this. The videos are great and educational, but he also manages to subtly weave in an almost spiritual subtext to them as well. For example, in this one, you learn about imaginary numbers in some cool ways, history, how awesome e^ix is, etc, but also this yen-yang balance between embracing not only what is real but taking a chance on what is imaginary. Some of my other favorites: - [LINK] - [LINK] - [LINK] - [LINK] - [this video] I think he’s going to lose the $10,000 bet on the car though.

Strong rec jerf · 2023-09 · on “How the Most Useless Branch of Math Could Save Your Life”

The video in question for reference: [LINK] Interestingly, when I saw that I figured this channel for a goner because he was going to turn to the darkside, but quite contrary to expectations I feel like his channel has actually blossomed since then. His older videos are fine, but often just explaining concepts that you can find a lot of other explanations on, but some of his recent videos have rocked the boat even among physicists and IMHO he was ultimately proved to be correct for them. I particularly point at his videos about how nobody has measured the one-way speed of light ( [this video] ), which was well-known among people very very deep in the field of relativity but not very well known ou

Recommends jerf · 2020-11 · on “A Spacetime Surprise: Time Isn’t Just Another Dimension”

Veritasium just had a good video which discusses this: [this video] It turns out there's some circularity in your definitions of "Move clocks at the exact same speed and acceleration in opposite directions" and "synchronized"; that's basically the definition of "synchronized", which is fine from a certain point of view, but from the point of view of examining the nature of space and time themselves, not adequate.

Recommends faeyanpiraat · 2021-01 · on “New superconductor microprocessor yields a substantial boost in efficiency”

There is a Veritasium video really fun to watch which exmplains with examples why you cannot measure one way speed of light: [this video]

Recommends fsh · 2022-03 · on “We're building computers wrong [video]”

I think he is easily one of the smartest people on YouTube and is producing some of the very best videos. He is also a brilliant educator. For examples, his videos on special [1] and general relativity [2] were real eye-openers for me, even though I have studied physics and have seen this stuff explained a million times before. What I really don't like are the new video titles. At some point he started A/B testing them to maximize his revenue. He even made a video about it [3]. Of course, this selects for the most outrageous clickbait in order to get that sweet engagement. I am starting to wonder if he took into account, how much this is starting to alienate long-term followers. [1] [this video]

Recommends baxtr · 2023-07 · on “How is the speed of light measured? (1997)”

There is a cool video by Veritasium about the specifics of how the speed of light is actually measured (1). I wasn’t aware that only the two way speed of light was measured so far, not the one way. Which is probably very irrelevant but still quite interesting. (1) [this video]

Cites tasty_freeze · 2020-11 · on “How extremophilic bacteria survive in space for one year”

You overstate it by calling it a theory. I'm sure you just watched the Veritasium video [1] on this very subject. The point wasn't to claim that space has a preferred direction (which would contradict known physics) but highlighting that there is no way to prove the speed of light is uniform, only that the round trip speed is 'c'. Second, even if the speed of light is unbounded (or has a much higher bound) in one direction, that doesn't give a free ride for objects with mass to travel any faster than they currently do. It would take an incredible amount of energy to accelerate such rocks to near/above the constant 'c' and then you'd need to explain how it returns to normal asteroid speeds be