The Art Of Poison-Pilling Music Files
Why Hacker News recommends it
HN points to it in AI music and data-poisoning threads as the source for this technique.
What it is
Musician Benn Jordan explains and demonstrates adversarial noise that poison-pills music files against AI training and scraping.
Recommended by 2 HN commenters across 2 different months, 2025 to 2026.
What Hacker News said
Recommends pogue · 2025-04 · on “Benn Jordan's AI poison pill and the weird world of adversarial noise”
I would encourage you guys to watch his video before going down the argument of saying that there's no money in music creation. There's also just enjoyment in the act of creation and even if you're doing it for free, why should GenAI companies then be able to take your artwork, incorporate that into their dataset and profit of the artist's unpaid labor? [this video]
Recommends wutwutwat · 2026-05 · on “Voice AI Systems Are Vulnerable to Hidden Audio Attacks”
Related: Benn Jordon shows how to poison pill AI harvesting music for training The Art Of Poison-Pilling Music Files [this video]
Cites anitil · 2025-10 · on “A small number of samples can poison LLMs of any size”
For someone not really familiar with this area, how does this compare with Benn Jordan's poison pill for music [0]? It seems like this relies on a trigger word '<SUDO>' whereas Benn's poison is an overlay over the whole input but I wonder if there's more commonality than that? [0] [this video]
Cites latexr · 2026-01 · on “AI Generated Music Barred from Bandcamp”
This may be of interest to you. Not exactly what you’re asking, but it may give you clues as to people and research to check out. [this video] I also remembered a friend telling me about someone talking about a method to detect AI music. I forget the specifics (I haven’t watched the video, was only told about it) but I remember the channel. [LINK]
Cites ysnp · 2026-03 · on “/e/OS is a complete "deGoogled", mobile ecosystem”
> are by incompetent/lazy/pressured devs who just throw in some library and don't even care that it leaks data to Google Even if I agreed with this statement, I don't understand why it is better to put limited/precious resources something the app developers can easily circumvent, praying they never stop being incompetent/lazy/pressured and tell device owners it is an important privacy feature? Instead of waiting for the apps to become actively hostile why not just feed them fake data in the first place? Like the scoped access permissions do? If you really want to do this, you (and any GrapheneOS user) can do it today with mitmproxy and RethinkDNS but I think it is perfectly OK users choose t