Waymo AI Driverless Car Goes Rogue: Blocks Traffic, Evades Capture | JJRicks Rides With Waymo #54

JJRicks · 554K views · 2021 · 35:24

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Cited in self-driving threads as a documented case of a robotaxi failing at traffic cones, with some comments also noting the support team response.

What it is

JJRicks rides a driverless Waymo in Phoenix when it gets confused by traffic cones, blocks traffic, and evades the support vehicles sent to retrieve it. The episode is one of a long series of rider-view Waymo videos.

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What Hacker News said

Cites 22c · 2021-05 · on “Waymo AV Freaked Out by Traffic Cones, Blocks Traffic, Evades Support Vehicles”

At 30:18 there's a very interesting tidbit. [this video] They way I understand that is the route planner, which I assume is ran completely separately to the self-driving car, removes un-navigable spaces from the route planning. So in this situation, the roadside assistance driver is surprised that the entire lane has not been removed from the route planner. That's pretty damning and it makes me wonder if there is a huge gap in autonomy here that is being papered over by clever route planning (ie. avoid that lane altogether and the AI won't have to worry about the cones). The AI should be able to figure out on its own that the right lane was closed, it shouldn't need route planning to do that for

Cites OJFord · 2021-08 · on “Waymo starts offering autonomous rides in San Francisco”

I had no idea it was available anywhere to just anyone, and without a backup driver in the driver seat. It still isn't to me in the UK, but really cool to see, it's a lot further along (especially in terms of regulation/being allowed) than I realised. Couple of articles deep from the submission, blogger taking one for a ride (alone, in the back seat) in Arizona: [this video]

Cites drawkbox · 2021-11 · on “Walmart delivery powered by Cruise – Self-driving deliveries are here”

Yeah Cruise announced this Walmart delivery with self-driving cars in Nov 2020 to launch in 2021 [1] and it is now available at the first location in Arizona. Cruise has been testing here but probably more on proving grounds like Apple has. Apple just bought a proving ground this year that they have been leasing since 2017 [2]. Testing picking up as well as competition. I am sure Cruise will expand it in Arizona. Most of the self-driving operations are in the East Valley (Chandler, Gilbert, Tempe) as the roads are pretty simple and square. The Scottsdale area this is in also pretty simple and by the reservation. Self-driving cars are everywhere with Waymo in Arizona as well, many entirely un

Cites Honest_Carrot · 2022-03 · on “Waymo begins driverless rides in San Francisco”

IIRC correctly in their Waymo videos you can see inside the cabin. Each passenger gets a video feed of that video, so I think it is real-time. Let me find a link. EDIT: This was posted above for different reasons, but you can see the render is real-time. [this video]

Critical kjksf · 2021-07 · on “Tesla AutoPilot – I give up, it's downright lethal”

[this video] Here's a video of Waymo car in Phoenix. Around min. 17 it gets confused by a cone and stops in the middle of two lane road, hugging both lanes. Then google sends support but just when they arrive, the car drives away from them. They were lucky it didn't lead to an accident and as long as they keep the fleet to 600 cars then yeah, the accident rate will be much lower than Tesla's AutoPilot, shipped in more than a million cars. My point is not to rag on Waymo just to inject some reality. We don't have a choice between "safe and unsafe" way of developing self-driving software. We have a choice between "test software we know can't handle all situation on real roads and make it better bas

Critical rhacker · 2021-08 · on “How we’ve built the World’s Most Experienced Urban Driver”

It took a while, here's the video I watched that made me not want ANY Waymos near where I live: [this video] I think the thing that made me so furiously mad is that there's all these situations in the video that people might laugh at, but there are situations where I've been stuck in traffic in an emergency and if I found out it's because Google was trying to make it's next pentillionth dollar I would blow my top. Can you imagine one of these during the Campfire evacuation?

Critical patrick451 · 2022-10 · on “Next Stop for Waymo One: Los Angeles”

You can easily find videos of waymo cars doing crazy stuff that stretches the definition of "working" pretty far. E.g., [this video] Nobody has time for shenanigans like that.

Critical botanical · 2023-08 · on “A self-driving Uber killed a woman. The backup driver pleaded guilty”

I don't understand why authorities allow self-driving cars to beta test out in public. I thought waymo was the best with something like millions of hours on the road but when they started accepting passengers, it failed to proceed past a traffic cone: [this video] I wouldn't trust any of the others like Tesla and Uber that think self-driving is easy. And Tesla with their cost-saving no LIDAR nonsense. These companies should be fined hefty amounts and barred from testing out in public.