John McCain addresses Ukrainian protesters in Kiev

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A short Guardian clip of US Senator John McCain addressing protesters in Kiev's Independence Square in December 2013. He encourages them to continue peaceful protests for closer EU ties.

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Cites somenameforme · 2022-02 · on “Understanding the War in Ukraine”

Imagine this [1] scene playing out during one of the various protest come riot movements in the US over the past years. That is John McCain giving a speech to the protesters in the capitol of Ukraine, telling them that America is with them and that Europe will make Ukraine better. And to be clear he was doing this while the democratically elected [pro-Russian] president was still securely in office and would be for months to come. I feel like we largely lack any perspective because so many of things that are happening are something so completely foreign to us that it's difficult to even realistically imagine it. Imagine if Russia formed a 'defensive' military alliance whose primary mission w

Cites somenameforme · 2022-06 · on “US quietly urges more use of Russia fertilizer to ease food crisis”

Apologies for the hoard of links here, but I think they're necessary. There's so much disinformation and misinformation on this topic that I want to emphasize everything I'm stating is accurate and can be verified easily. The motion you are mentioning was the Ukraine cabinet passing a resolution (in other words a statement of intent) to continue working towards an EU Association Agreement, the exact same sort they currently have with places such as Israel, Egypt, South Africa, Syria, and many other such nations. [1] That cabinet then chose to not pass any further acts that would have been necessary to move forward with said agreement. Instead it started moving towards the creation of a 3-way

Cites ginjas · 2022-06 · on “YaLM-100B: Pretrained language model with 100B parameters”

Unmasked as a shill for saying that great powers engage in propaganda, false flagging and dissent crushing. I have no skin in the game. War, no war, it doesn't matter to me the outcome of this war to be honest. EDIT: But if you are all moral highground, answer me this: Why did the US goad Ukraine into taking a hostile stance against a neighbouring (and somewhat rival) great power? Whas this to the interest of Ukranians? Or to the geopolitical interests of US? [this video]

Cites somenameforme · 2023-02 · on “Microsoft Edge sets Yandex as default search engine in Moldova”

This [1] is a video of John McCain in the capitol of Ukraine in 2013, shortly before the occasionally violent protests turned into an outright insurrection. He was saying, with minimal sugar coating, "revolt and we'll have your back." Victoria Nuland, currently part of Biden's cabinet, was also there actively agitating protesters. Imagine this in a parallel world in the US. Where the US is a relatively weak, impoverished, and deeply corrupt nation. And the speaker was from ostensibly the most powerful nation in the world. You'd have brought out every anti-government individual in the country, all with that twinkle of violence in their eyes. Which is exactly what happened. I don't really thin

Cites EGreg · 2023-07 · on “Jeffrey Sachs: the West’s false narrative about Russia and China”

I don’t follow “Russian propaganda”, I think for myself. Every source I have shared with you is a mainstream Western source, including experts whose JOB it was to deliver analyses for their governments. If I lived in Russia, I’d be surrounded by Russian propaganda and also would have to cut through it like any independently-thinking person. If anything, I am constantly exposed to “US propaganda” since I live here, and it is a concerted effort to shut out anything that is even slightly away from the predetermined, official line, (in this case that the invasion is “unjustified and unprovoked”). After 9-11 it was going to be “Islamofascism” but that didn’t poll well, so they switched to “they h

Cites EGreg · 2023-07 · on “Jeffrey Sachs: the West’s false narrative about Russia and China”

Well, a single person is going too far. Obviously there is diversity of thought throughout various cities. But having said that, yes I specifically mentioned Chernivtsi because it is in Western Ukraine and to show that I am acquainted with people who live there. Cities like Ivano-Frankivsk and Chernivtsi and Lviv are historically Polish Galicia, they really have had quite anti-Russian sentiment for a very long time. Even during Soviet times, the USA tried to reach them with Radio Liberty —- started by the CIA (bet you didn’t know that). People living there are the ones who hope the most that USA will come and help them escape having to deal with “the Russian-speaking world”. Many of them don

Cites chrisco255 · 2023-09 · on “The US Military Is Getting Smaller, Cheaper and Smarter”

It was never planned for 3 days. That's just another fake sound bite. The war was brewing since 2014 and everyone in U.S. government knew it and everyone in Russia knew it. Here's the late Senator McCain 9 years ago in Kiev: [this video] Here's him and Lindsey Graham again 8 years ago talking about arming and training Ukrainians: [LINK]

Cites somenameforme · 2023-09 · on “Meduza co-founder's phone infected with Pegasus”

During the leadup to the coup in Ukraine in 2014, she and McCain were literally on the ground in Ukraine actively agitating protesters encouraging them to overthrow their government. This [1] is a speech from McCain, in Kyiv, Ukraine , in late 2013. To understand how screwed up this is you really have to try to put yourself in the situation. Imagine the US was a relatively weak nation, and during the leadup to the mass protests comes riots around January 6th, in DC, you had leading politicians from China or Russia giving speeches, "Russia is with you. China is with you! The destiny you seek lies in China!" Think about the impact this is going to have on people dissatisfied with their governm