Intersection design, the Dutch - cycle friendly - way

BicycleDutch · 965K views · 2011 · 2:22

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Why Hacker News recommends it

HN uses it as the standard reference for how the Netherlands solves cyclist and driver conflicts at intersections.

What it is

A short BicycleDutch episode showing how Dutch protected intersections continue cycle paths through the junction without needing extra street width.

Recommended by 1 HN commenters across 1 different months, 2012 to 2022.

What Hacker News said

Recommends IkmoIkmo · 2015-08 · on “Münster’s iconic ‘waste of space’ photo keeps on giving”

Welcome :) There's quite a few interesting videos on traffic design in the Netherlands, junction design is a big topic, as well as separating lanes. Videos like these might be fun to watch: [this video] If it piques your interest, there's more comprehensive videos too like this one which is still only 5 minutes: [LINK]

Cites maurits · 2012-09 · on “To Encourage Biking, Cities Lose the Helmets”

To Encourage Biking, Cities should do two things, and two things only: - Bike lanes. Physically separated bike lanes. This is not rocket science. Trains have rails, airplanes have a nice bit of tarmac and bikes should have a space tailored to their specific needs as well. Typically in the Netherlands, bikes are banned from roads that are 50km/h and up. And they don't need to battle it out with fast traffic, for there are bike lanes. And the limited space in this country means that something truly has to give when adding them. This how the dutch design an intersection. Note the absence of the ridiculous ASL boxes, and most important, no crossing of lanes. [this video] - Traffic laws that protect t

Cites maurits · 2013-04 · on “Electric Velomobiles: fast, comfortable, and more efficient than cars”

In short, build bike lanes like the dutch. [1] Big, physically separated, omnipresent bike lines. Ensure that bikes are first class citizens on intersections. Compare the 2-stage turn with the dutch design [2] [1] [LINK] [2] [this video]

Cites arjunnarayan · 2014-09 · on “Bike lanes have sped up car traffic in New York City”

This site is brilliant, and thank you for that link. I followed some of the citations. The video on the site makes it seem like it's an experimental idea, but to be clear, here is this dutch video showing that exact design in use - today - [this video] I can only dream of living in a place where I could bike with such safety. I regularly get honked at/shouted at in Philadelphia --- for biking in bike lanes, because, apparently, drivers in Philly believe that it is their sovereign right to drive in green painted bike lanes when they wish to turn right. Maybe I should revise my "move to Canada" life plan, and make it "move to Amsterdam".

Cites vanderZwan · 2016-03 · on “The Bike Wars Are Over, and the Bikes Won”

As a Dutchman, the first two paragraphs were quite infuriating to read; a list of arguments similar to the now-classic "Schödinger's immigrant"-joke ("simultaneously too lazy to work and stealing your job"). > Well, no wonder: Roads are built for buses, cars, and trucks, not for people on bikes. Well good to see that the 1920s auto-industry propaganda[0] still has it's firm grip on American society! Roads were not made for cars, the cars claimed the roads once they got on the scene. You can choose to design them in a way that accomodates all[1]. The only reason I'd hate leaving the Netherlands is because no other country comes close in bike-friendliness at the moment (simply put: good bike i

Cites vanderZwan · 2016-12 · on “How Sweden Has Redesigned Streets to Route Around Bad Behavior”

As a Dutchman living in Stockholm I can tell you one thing: they should fix their goddamn bike lanes. Sure, they have them, which makes them better than 90% of the rest of the world. They're still shit. There's no separation of car- and bike traffic. To turn left a cyclist first has to cross parallel car traffic, making this unsafer for cyclists (and annoying for the people in cars, for that matter). Key issues: - the cyclist and driver should meet at a (near) 90 degree angle, so neither requires eyes in the back of their head - separate the goddamn lanes so neither car nor cyclist feels uncomfortably close to the other - don't require extra space because every square meter counts in a big c

Cites raarts · 2017-05 · on “Do We Overvalue Bike Lanes?”

OP makes some good points but should go on vacation in the Netherlands. Way ahead in road safety. For example: [this video] Or more extensively: [LINK]

Cites bane · 2017-06 · on “Why is cycling so popular in the Netherlands?”

The impression I got from Amsterdam is that the city (and by extension the Dutch) has simply accepted all the behaviors that cyclists will do in a less cyclist friendly environment (run stop signs, ignore pedestrians, turn without signing and so on), and then just built infrastructure to support that natural behavior. As a pedestrian unfamiliar with the city, at first I found it hugely annoying that so little space was left to pedestrians, but once I figured out where not to stand, I started to have a much better appreciation for how it contributes the functioning of the city. In fact, I was kind of surprised at how little boat traffic there is these days. Having read and watched some videos