The Talk Show: Remote From WWDC 2020
Why Hacker News recommends it
Cited for Federighi's statement that Apple silicon Macs will run other operating systems via virtualization rather than direct booting.
What it is
John Gruber interviews Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak after WWDC 2020 about the Mac transition to Apple silicon, macOS Big Sur and iOS 14.
Recommended by 0 HN commenters across 0 different months, 2020 to 2021.
What Hacker News said
Cites Asmod4n · 2020-11 · on “Introducing the next generation of Mac”
During WWDC they said you can't use any other operating System at boot time, only through virtual Machines. Update: here a podcast with Craig Federighi on that matter [this video]
Cites shaicoleman · 2020-11 · on “Introducing the next generation of Mac”
Link with timestamp: [this video] "we're not direct booting an alternate operating system, it's purely virtualization"
Cites vbezhenar · 2020-11 · on “Introducing the next generation of Mac”
Here's WWDC talk claiming that you can't: [this video] I'm talking about ARM macs, not Intel ones.
Cites cercatrova · 2020-11 · on “Docker fails to launch on Apple Silicon”
Presumably they are locked down. When asked about alternate OS, Craig Federighi said that it will be virtualization rather than booting other OS on the metal, ie Linux (and possibly Windows) VMs rather than Bootcamp. That's one of the big things stopping me from switching from the Intel version. [this video]
Cites rudedogg · 2021-02 · on “OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware”
They're quoting Craig Federighi: [this video] I don't get the downvotes of the parent post, the interpretation is completely reasonable. The point is that Apple was very clear that they are only supporting macOS on their hardware.
Cites sigjuice · 2021-12 · on “Apple Helps Asahi Linux”
Is there another interview that goes into the details of Apple's boot setup goals? [this video] In this one, Craig Federighi says “We’re not direct booting an alternate operating system. Purely virtualization is the route. These hypervisors can be very efficient, so the need to direct boot shouldn’t really be the concern.”
Critical areoform · 2020-11 · on “macOS unable to open any non-Apple application”
So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It's fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. [LINK] And this is why I won't be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to "no unsigned binaries"), and congrats! Apple is the sole decider of what we get to use on our computers. Of course Apple's Craig Federighi assures us that the people making such assertions are "tools" ( [this video] , timestamp 53:33) and they have no intention whatsoever of taking away our ability to do general compute on the machines we buy and own. Except... Appl