Steve Jobs and Bill Gates Together at D5 Conference 2007
Why Hacker News recommends it
Cited for specific Jobs and Gates remarks, such as how the two companies helped each other and how Apple recovered, though one commenter notes it was widely derided as an interview.
What it is
The 2007 D5 conference joint interview of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, hosted by Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher, discussing the history of Apple and Microsoft, partnership, competition and computing's future.
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Cites TheLogothete · 2016-03 · on “2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results”
>I have no doubt that the web will eat desktop application Both Steve Jobs and Bill Gates disagree with you[1]. [1] [this video]
Cites studentrob · 2016-04 · on “iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs”
> Most regular people I know enjoy Facebook I enjoy Facebook. I just see opportunity for something next-generation. Also, I disagree with the notion that Facebook will be fine forever as the dominant player in social networking. They are better off with more competition. Gates and Jobs are quoted saying that Microsoft and Apple's existence helped each other become better companies [1] [2], and helped get more useful computers into people's homes and businesses faster. Gmail offers an export feature of its emails and contacts in formats that are importable by other tools. Facebook could do this for your friends list. They don't because they've never had competition that provides such a featur
Cites studentrob · 2016-04 · on “iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs”
> Don't you think you're projecting? It's easy to romance competition, but I seriously doubt HTC hopes the OR finds it's feet. Sure, this is my opinion on the internet. I've no idea if the HTC and Facebook CEOs feel the same way about competition helping each other as Jobs [1] and Gates [2] said. But I imagine those at the top of massive organizations know a few things about being successful that might not be obvious to the rest of us. What Jobs and Gates said does ring true about their history. Jobs explicitly pointed out that there was a toxic anti-Microsoft attitude at Apple when he returned, and getting rid of that was critical to their success [1]. > Just as its easy for Gates and Jobs
Cites studentrob · 2016-05 · on “Reddit and Facebook Veteran on How to Troubleshoot Troublemakers”
Managers I respect would more accurately be described as saying "join the team or get out". My favorite managers are coordinators and facilitators. They listen to everyone's input, above and below them, and stear the ship towards success. They gauge input commensurate with the experience and knowledge of each person from whom it came. They make decisions with special sauce that can't really be boiled down to words. They're transparent, communicative, thoughtful, available and appreciative. If the manager has heavy experience and success, it may sound like he's saying "do this my way or get out". For example, Steve Jobs felt he had great taste, and many people felt he was a jerk. He obviously
Cites ksec · 2021-08 · on “Apple is now an antifragile company”
It may be worth watching D5 again, but here is the bit [1] >We wont so good at partnering with people, where as Bill and Microsoft were really good at it. They learn how to partner with people really well. And I think if Apple had a little more of that in its DNA, it would have become more successful. And I dont think Apple learned that until few decades later. - Steve Jobs. I think Steve Jobs was way way better with partnering in his return from NeXT. From iPhone with Cingular to patent signing with Qualcomm partnership. He really knew which battle to fight and which to work with. Tim Cook seems to have a very bean counting view on almost everything. To the point of not valuing much partner
Cites chang1 · 2024-12 · on “Intel announces retirement of Pat Gelsinger”
Reminds me of Jobs quoting Gil Amelio at D5[1]: > Gil was a nice guy, but he had a saying. He said, 'Apple is like a ship with a hole in the bottom, leaking water, and my job is to get the ship pointed in the right direction.' [1]: [this video]
Critical dlivingston · 2020-07 · on “A Steve Jobs masterclass from a decade ago”
Two universally-derided Kara Swisher interviews are the joint Bill Gates/Steve Jobs panel at D5 [0] and the Elon Musk Recode interview (go to time stamp 7:00 in particular) [1]. [0]: [this video] [1]: [LINK]