George Hotz | Programming | can tinygrad whisper? | AMD Rant | Giving up on AMD | Speech to Text
Why Hacker News recommends it
Mostly cited as the source of Hotz's AMD driver rant, which some commenters found validating and others found unflattering.
What it is
A long George Hotz live-stream from June 2023 in which he works on tinygrad and rants about AMD's drivers, ultimately declaring he is giving up on AMD. It also touches on hardware and compiler topics.
Recommended by 0 HN commenters across 0 different months, 2023 to 2024.
What Hacker News said
Cites alecco · 2023-06 · on “Lisa Su Saved AMD. Now She Wants Nvidia's AI Crown”
It seems he reached out to AMD and Su, but got back a horrible patch and wasted a lot of time and he "gave up on AMD", "this driver will never, ever be good". [this video]
Cites icpmacdo · 2023-06 · on “Ted Kaczynski, ‘Unabomber’ Who Attacked Modern Life, Dies at 81”
Here is a timestamped clip of George Hotz Twitch stream from 6 days ago making the same point about rationalizing his own emotional state of powerlessness in Industrial Society and its Future [this video]
Cites born-jre · 2023-06 · on “”
short answer is they have somewhat competent hardware but software sucks or you can watch george hotz rant about how amd driver sucks [this video]
Cites roenxi · 2023-07 · on “VUDA: A Vulkan Implementation of CUDA”
Hmm. I found [this video] and [LINK] I feel a lot better about my journey with AMD now; there seemed to be some major issues with their GPU drivers. Now I know it wasn't just me.
Cites XTXinverseXTY · 2023-08 · on “Ask HN: Cheapest hardware to run Llama 2 70B”
> according to George Hotz In this video from June, George Hotz says to go with "3090s over 4090s. 3090s have NVLink... 4090s are $1600 and 3090s are 750. RAM bandwidth is about the same." Has he changed his recommendations since then? [this video]
Cites roenxi · 2024-03 · on “Documentation for the AMD 7900XTX”
So for reference, this geohot is George Hotz who has a company Tiny Corp [0] in the space. Among a long list of things, he had a moment in the spotlight recently for a long rant [1] where he "gave up on AMD" because their drivers sucked more than he expected. The situation is reasonably complex - AMD have some programmers working on ROCm who seemed to be operating at standard fare when that is really not what AMD needs right now (I personally, suspect there is/was a PM in a key position who didn't "get it", although I am not sure what it is either). As far as I know it got the attention of Lisa Su. I'm cheering him on, even though his complaints were a little melodramatic. My experience is t
Critical brucethemoose2 · 2023-06 · on “AMD's Lisa Su and Tiny Corp's George Hotz Repair Business Relationship”
Even with this very notable reconciliation, the freewheeling YT video: [this video] And a harder look at the ML space outside of PyTorch eager mode has made me more skeptical of tinygrad.
Critical paulmd · 2023-07 · on “Why Nvidia Keeps Winning: The Rise of an AI Giant”
He flamed out, then is back after Lisa Su called him (lmao) [LINK] [this video] [LINK] [LINK] On a personal level that youtube doesn't make him come off looking that good... like people are trying to get patches to him and generally soothe him/damage control and he's just being a bit of a manchild. And it sounds like that's the general course of events around a lot of his "efforts". On the other hand he's not wrong either, having this private build inside AMD and not even validating official, supported configurations for the officially supported non-private builds they show to the world isn't a good look, and that's just the very start of the problems around ROCm. AMD's OpenCL runtime was never s