Jordan Hubbard - FreeBSD: The Next 10 Years
Why Hacker News recommends it
Cited in init-system and Unix debates as FreeBSD's stance on launchd versus systemd, and recommended for its view of FreeBSD's future.
What it is
Jordan Hubbard, FreeBSD co-founder, discusses where FreeBSD might go over the next decade at MeetBSD California 2014. He draws on his Apple Unix experience, including bringing launchd-style init ideas to FreeBSD.
Recommended by 1 HN commenters across 1 different months, 2014 to 2016.
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Recommends peatmoss · 2014-11 · on “Ask HN: Can we talk about Linux vs. OS/X?”
> compensates for a mish-mash of inefficient and insecure technology on the backend side of things. . . no matter how optimized and clean the back end is (relative to OS X) I'm not sure that's really an accurate characterization of OSX. In terms of security, I don't see where there have been any great number of exploits attacking the kernel (XNU) or userland (mostly FreeBSD) layers. Recent high-profile vulnerabilities like heartbleed were hardly OSX specific. I'm also not sure that those layers can really be called inefficient relative to Linux. Mach was a great deal more modular in terms of separation of concerns as compared to Linux (good for cleanliness/security, but never had great perfo
Cites cjsthompson · 2015-08 · on “The Systemd Chronicles”
It is perplexing that someone who you deem to be "historically and technically illiterate" and who you accuse of not "actually reading Haiku's scheme" actually has been reading the Haiku commit logs and can point to this : [LINK] "* This will be heavily inspired by Apple's launchd, as well as systemd -- for now it really doesn't do a whole lot, though." Note the "as well as" here. [LINK] "* This follows systemd design; since those jobs are fixed, it doesn't matter where you maintain them." And as far as FreeBSD is concerned : [this video] (At 27:23) I'm not sure who appears to be more historically and technically-challenged here. In the scope of Linux it is appropriate to call systemd revolutiona
Cites 2trill2spill · 2015-11 · on “nosh: Linux/BSD init, with systemd compat”
> Instead, you're ignoring all of the flaws I listed in favor of a red herring dismissal by focusing on my criticism of your question. Not everything revolves around your feelings. I'm not ignoring the issue you have pointed out, rather It would be nice to hear about nosh. There's significantly more information about launchd than nosh, for example launchd has two videos, explaining the reasoning and methodology for bringing in launchd and the other apple libraries. FreeBSD next 10 years: [this video] NextBSD intro: [LINK] A quick search on google and their are no videos about nosh. The nosh website doesn't contain much information about the design of nosh. Looking around the source of nosh the va
Cites Someone · 2016-01 · on “FreeBSD Jails the hard way”
[LINK] , slides 32 and 33: "etc/rc.d is quite sophisticated for what it does, but the paint on /etc/rc is obvious" "Too many things need to know explicitly about dependencies" "Even the Linux die-hards have essentially grasped the necessity of systemd" Talk is by Jordan Hubbard, FreeBSD co-founder ( [LINK] ) Discussion at [LINK] , video at [this video] (49 minutes)