Inside China's 'thought transformation' camps - BBC News

BBC News · 3.7M views · 2019 · 11:59

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HN cites it as a stage-managed press tour of the camps, useful for seeing what was shown and what was hidden.

What it is

A 2019 BBC News report by John Sudworth, who was given rare access to the secure facilities in Xinjiang where more than a million Muslims are thought to be held. Authorities call them training schools, and the report examines what the visit reveals about the system and conditions inside.

Recommended by 1 HN commenters across 1 different months, 2020 to 2021.

What Hacker News said

Recommends aaomidi · 2020-08 · on “China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment”

A recommended watch: [this video] This is what China wants you to see. Now think about what they don't watch you to see.

Cites bakuninsbart · 2020-07 · on “Xinjiang is prototype for fully totalitarian state: Taiwan minister”

Almost all of the extreme allegations are levelled by Zenz, Uighur seperatist organizations, and ASPI, an australian think-tank. Other sources do include people visiting there[1], including news-teams[2] and third-nation observers[3], but there claims usually get casually dismissed as a bad source for one reason or the other. Chinese media obviously isn't a good source either. Now Zenz is an evangelical fundamentalist who once wrote he's on a crusade against the CPC. His studies often times don't really follow scientific standards. For example, for his claim that 2 million Uighurs are held in concentration camps, he interviewed 8 Uighur refugees, and extrapolated from the numbers they believ

Cites bArray · 2020-08 · on “China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment”

> But can you trust the source. His family haven't heard from him in 5 months, it seems quite extreme for a small amount of popularity. > Perhaps find a more credible source to support. Just to name a few: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. [1] [LINK] [2] [this video] [3] [LINK] [4] [LINK] [5] [LINK]

Cites jariel · 2021-02 · on “Uighurs: 'Credible case' China carrying out genocide”

The press is literally invited to see much of what is happening. [1] It just scratches the surface. [1] [this video]

Cites enaaem · 2021-09 · on “Missing businesswoman urges ex-husband not to publish book critical of China”

Reminds me of the time China gave a tour to international journalists of their reeducation camps: [this video] It looks creepy as hell from a western perspective.