Why lockdowns are the wrong policy: Swedish expert Prof. Johan Giesecke

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Recommends 9nGQluzmnq3M · 2020-04 · on “Rt: Effective Reproduction Number of Covid-19”

Here's an interesting interview with a senior epidemiologist partly responsible for Sweden's unconventional strategy: [this video] TL;DW: Preventing transmission in the long term is impossible and the actual fatality rate is likely on the order of 0.1%, so general lockdowns are pointless and being driven mostly by political considerations (something must be done and this is something). Just protect the elderly and weak.

Recommends salimmadjd · 2020-04 · on “The epidemiologist behind Sweden’s controversial coronavirus strategy”

There is a lengthier interview by UnHeard with Professor Johan Giesecke (another experienced epidemiologist) of Sweden on YouTube [0]. It’s worthwhile listening to their perspective. One of the comments he made was that no lockdown would work in democratic countries and the real test will be fatality rates between Sweden and others in 1 year. He believed it’ll be very little difference between those countries that have implement the lockdown and those that haven’t I had watched the simulation of covid19 infection by 1blue3brown[1] and some of his modeling appeared to me (maybe I misunderstood them) to confirm Swede’s point of view. Ultimately the same number of people got infected albeit in

Recommends rishirishi · 2020-04 · on “Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’s did not”

As I see it, lockdowns are not effective and were a massive mistake. You may find this epidemiologist's perspective to be interesting: [this video]

Recommends dcanelhas · 2020-05 · on “Getting Back to Work”

Sweden has a rather different welfare system, typical population density, income distribution, typical household demographic, urban planning and culture regarding social interactions, compared to many places that would use it as an example for what to do in this crisis. I think following the available evidence, interpreted by experts is the way to go. Ultimately the argument for Sweden's policy seems to be less based on cost saving than general wellbeing. A good bit of insight here: [this video]

Recommends benjaminwootton · 2020-05 · on “How Apocalyptic Is Now?”

Unherd.com have had some of the best journalism of the crisis so far. In particular some of the interviews with epedimiologists: [this video] [LINK] [LINK]

Recommends K0nserv · 2020-05 · on “Stockholm Won't Reach Herd Immunity in May, Sweden's Chief Epidemiologist Says”

I'm Swedish but I live in Scotland and I've been watching the Swedish approach to COVID with great interest. I remain fairly sceptical but I also thought this interview[0] with Johan Giesecke who was the previous state epidemiologist and is advising both WHO and the current state epidemiologist interesting. In particular it seems like Sweden messed up the response in elderly care which is something that everyone is admiting to. I do think it's too early to say whether Sweden's approach is as bad as it currently looks, likely this is not something that can be measured and compared to other nations for years. 0: [this video]

Recommends jansan · 2021-08 · on “The Sweden experiment: how no lockdowns led to mental health, healthier economy”

Here is an interview with Prof Johan Giesecke from April 2020. In hindsight one can call his statements prophetic. [this video] They had a clear plan, unlike other governments like Germany, who still do not have a plan how to get out of this mess.

Cites salimmadjd · 2020-05 · on “Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County order”

I have to side with Musk here. I want to see what everything Tesla is doing to protect their employees and if they are following a subset of the below guidelines that I've listed. Temperature check at entrance, mask requirement, strict hand sanitization, etc. Then let Musk commercialize the process of opening up businesses. Some background: I followed Corona (COVID19 now) from late January very closely and read most published papers. I strongly supported the "flattening of the curve" and encouraged the lockdown and we practiced/and practice strict social distancing. That being said, hearing countering arguments from various scientist (2013 Noble prize winner [0]). The Swedish epidemiologist