Joe Rogan Experience #1439 - Michael Osterholm

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Strong rec spectramax · 2020-03 · on “Don't Touch Ya Face”

Dr. Michael Osterholm was on Joe Rogan's podcast explaining in detail how this virus spreads [1] - Washing hands and not touching face is inconclusive but it makes sense to keep up the hygiene. That's not the primary means of how this virus spreads. - Virus primarily spreads via airborne means, simply by breathing (not even coughing or sneezing) is enough. It stays suspended in air (you can imagine the negligible weight of a 0.1um particle compared to the fluid mechanical forces from circulating air). - N95 masks (contrarily to the popular myth) are the most effective means of stopping the spread. Shortage of masks for hospital workers is an orthogonal issue. I urge everyone of you to watch

Recommends cletus · 2020-03 · on “Why some governments appear not to be acting on the Covid-19 threat”

So I encourage people to go watch the Joe Rogan podcast on this [1]. A few snippets: - He describes this as more like a "winter" than a "blizzard" in that this is going to go on for months; - No one really knows what the mortality rate is but it's become clear there are certain risk factors eg the fatality rate among people over 70 in China is about 3x for men than women but men are much more likely to smoke than women in China in this age group. - Keeping schools closed is a mixed bag. For one, kids below 9 or so don't seem to get sick or die. In China only 2% of cases are under age 19. There are other diseases like this (eg Hepatitis-A). If you keep kids home, some people will lose their j

Recommends ApolloRising · 2020-03 · on “Ask HN: Where to get legitimate information about the coronavirus?”

This was very helpful to me: [this video] Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology. He is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota. Look for his book "Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Deadly Germs" for more info. [LINK] [LINK]

Cites simplyinfinity · 2020-03 · on “Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools”

According to cdc expert, kids up to 19 mostly don't get sick, or if they do, it's not as bad as in adults over 40 [this video]

Cites Consultant32452 · 2020-03 · on “Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools”

Yes. The Joe Rogan experience episode with Michael Osterholm talked about this. Basically all of this social distancing is about slowing the spread so as to not overwhelm the healthcare system, not stop it. They can calculate how much you impact the speed of spread if you limit gatherings to 1k, 100, 50, 5, etc. From there it's a somewhat subjective risk assessment of what you want to recommend, bearing in mind that destroying the economy results in deaths from downstream effects. [this video]

Cites sb057 · 2020-03 · on “Don't Touch Ya Face”

Michael Osterholm of the University of Minnesota said as much on JRE yesterday.[1] Obviously touching your face won't decrease your chances of catching coronavirus (or any other disease), but the reason this strain is wrecking so much havoc is because of how transmissible it is, especially through simple breathing. The implication being, if you get it on your hands, you've almost certainly already breathed it in. [1] [this video]

Cites dba7dba · 2020-03 · on “South Korea's drive-through testing for coronavirus”

I would love to see you link/source. I have watched [this video] with Michael Osterholm as guest. This is not a flat out lie.

Cites nate_meurer · 2020-03 · on “Open letter from Italy to the international scientific community”

No, not even close. Those wet markets are a fucking nightmare. There are truly optimized for pulling new diseases into the human population. Thousands of animals, hundreds of different species, many known to be reservoirs of potential human pathogens, crammed together in close proximity with each other and with humans who eat them. In his interview with Joe Rogan, Michael Osterholm called it "the perfect experiment that no university would let you do": [this video] Their discussion of wet markets starts at around 1:01:00.