TeamTrees vs REALITY!!
Why Hacker News recommends it
Used as a source for back-of-envelope numbers on tree planting and by critics of feel-good climate gestures.
What it is
Thunderf00t critiques the TeamTrees campaign, doing the math on how little carbon 20 million trees would actually offset. He argues that tree planting is far from adequate against global emissions.
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What Hacker News said
Cites danuker · 2021-07 · on “$100M xPrize for Carbon Removal”
Planting trees it is very difficult to keep up with global production. TL; DW: planting 20 million trees would equal roughly the CO2 emissions of the USA for half a day. [this video]
Cites danuker · 2021-08 · on “How green is blue hydrogen?”
It is very difficult to keep up with global CO2 production by planting trees. TL; DW: planting 20 million trees would equal roughly the CO2 emissions of the USA for half a day. [this video]
Cites danuker · 2022-03 · on “Launch HN: Living Carbon (YC W20) – Trees that capture and store more carbon”
A back-of-the-envelope calculation [0] shows that, to offset the US CO2 emissions, you need to plant about 20 million trees PER DAY. [0] - [this video]
Critical stooliepidgin · 2021-10 · on “We need to take CO2 out of the sky”
TeamTrees vs REALITY!! [this video] Doing "something" is futile if it's ineffective, not permanent, and not scalable.
Critical sacnoradhq · 2023-03 · on “An Introduction to Forest Carbon”
Remember the delusional, happy-clappy "helping" of #teamtrees? Did they make a dent? And let's completely ignore that trees burn and biomass rots because the message of "I'm better than you!" is more important than reality of anthropogenic global warming. [this video] Rake America Great Again!
Critical 1letterunixname · 2023-07 · on “House Republicans propose planting a trillion trees”
House Republicans, now with more #TeamTrees. "TeamTrees vs REALITY!!" [this video] Climate change can best be solved by scalable biological means like phytoplankton and seaweed grown, processed, and sequestered by autonomous robotic platforms. (Sacrificial areas of deep water seem unavoidable.) Fractional distillation of air, planting trees, spraying substances in the air, and solar shades aren't going to work.
Critical 1letterunixname · 2023-07 · on “Plans to plant billions of trees threatened by undersupply of seedlings”
This is as absurd as it is futile because of forest fires, decay, and math. "TeamTrees vs REALITY!!" [this video]
Critical sacnoradhq · 2023-10 · on “Many Climate 'Solutions' Are Dead Ends or Niches and Should Be Ignored”
95% correct. "Planting a lot of trees" has been proven dead wrong because of simple math, plant matter decay, and increasing fucking forest fires. Instead, #teamtrees couldn't face reality while doing the disservice of misinforming and lying to millions of people for egotistical and aspirational post-factual rhetoric. [this video]