Cybersecurity as Realpolitik by Dan Geer presented at Black Hat USA 2014
Why Hacker News recommends it
Cited over and over as an important talk, with commenters borrowing its ideas on cheap surveillance, offense-favoring security and liability.
What it is
Dan Geer's Black Hat 2014 keynote argues that cybersecurity is a matter of power and policy rather than wishful thinking. He covers surveillance, the vulnerability market, software liability and privacy as the capacity to misrepresent yourself.
Recommended by 1 HN commenters across 6 different months, 2014 to 2023.
What Hacker News said
Strong rec pdkl95 · 2015-09 · on “From Radio to Porn, British Spies Track Web Users’ Online Identities”
All it takes is metadata . The "digital exhaust" we leave behind is extremely revealing. I usually use COTRAVELER as my example of how just a few data points (without any PII) can reveal a LOT about your social interactions, but browser history is another powerful data source. I believe this is why Dan Geer, in his incredible talk last year[1], suggested that "privacy" should now be defined as "the effective capacity to misrepresent yourself". To avoid exactly the type of analysis, you need the capability to misrepresent yourself, and you need to regularly be in the habit of use use that capability. Misrepresentation is using disinformation to frustrate data fusion on the part of whomever it
Strong rec pdkl95 · 2015-12 · on “A Decade-Old Gag Order, Lifted”
Dan Geer at his important talk at Black Hat: The central dynamic internal to government is, and always has been, that the only way for either the Executive or the Legislature to control the many sub-units of government is by way of how much money they can hand out. [...] Suppose, however, that surveillance becomes too cheap to meter, that is to say too cheap to limit through budgetary processes. Does that lessen the power of the Legislature more, or the power of the Executive more? I think that ever-cheaper surveillance substantially changes the balance of power in favor of the Executive and away from the Legislature. While President Obama was referring to something else when he said "I've G
Strong rec pdkl95 · 2016-10 · on “Ask HN: What's your favorite tech talk?”
Y Not - Adventures in Functional Programming by Jim Weirich [LINK] The Coming Civil War over General Purpose Computing by Cory Doctorow [LINK] Cybersecurity as Realpolitik by Dan Geer [this video] [LINK]
Strong rec pdkl95 · 2019-11 · on “The Fantasy of Opting Out”
> Obfuscation may be our best digital weapon. From Dan Geer's talk "Cybersecurity as Realpolitik" (which everyone should hear[1]/read[2]): >> There are so many technologies now that power observation and identification of the individual at a distance. They may not yet be in your pocket or on your dashboard or embedded in all your smoke detectors, but that is only a matter of time. Your digital exhaust is unique hence it identifies. Pooling everyone's digital exhaust also characterizes how you differ from normal. Privacy used to be proportional to that which it is impossible to observe or that which can be observed but not identified. No more -- what is today observable and identifiable kills
Recommends pdkl95 · 2015-10 · on “Global coalition to Facebook: “Authentic names” are dangerous for your users”
From your other posts you seem to have a very good sense of social responsibility, so I'm surprised at this comment. Multiple identities are incredibly important to anybody in a minority that is threatened by their local mainstream culture. Black people in may areas (even today), gay or lesbian people in many parts of the world, and trans people just about anywhere[1] are some obvious examples. There are numerous others, which bring varying amounts of risk if exposed publicly. These people are often forced to put on a facade when in public, to avoid the risk of being fired (only a few of these are protected classes), beaten, or even killed. The internet has created a space where these people
Recommends pdkl95 · 2019-08 · on “Pentagon testing mass surveillance balloons across the US”
> technology is going to make mass surveillance relatively easy > a la Gestapo In 2013 Tom Scott made an incredibly prescient sketch of our grim surveillance-state future. It absolutely terrifying . [LINK] It's terrifying because it's the power of Stasi-style informants modernized into a simple Uber-like app. No more scary clandestine meetings, now you can inform on your friends, family, and neighbors with one click from the comfort of your own home. Similar to the "social credit" system, Tom's "Oversight" could work, because they both efficiently incentivize close peers against each other. "You should stop spending time with your friend John. I heard him talking like a dissident recently...
Cites diafygi · 2014-09 · on “Nearly All U.S. Home Depot Stores Hit By Credit Card Theft”
> If a couple of Texas brothers could corner the world silver market,[HB] there is no doubt that the U.S. Government could openly corner the world vulnerability market, that is we buy them all and we make them all public. Simply announce "Show us a competing bid, and we'll give you 10x." Sure, there are some who will say "I hate Americans; I sell only to Ukrainians," but because vulnerability finding is increasingly automation-assisted, the seller who won't sell to the Americans knows that his vulns can be rediscovered in due course by someone who will sell to the Americans who will tell everybody, thus his need to sell his product before it outdates is irresistible. This strategy's usefulne
Cites pdkl95 · 2014-12 · on “US Senate Report on CIA Detention and Interrogation Program”
Even if you ignore JFK, a good case can be made that the security agencies (probably FVEY?) currently seem to have at least de facto control basically anywhere they want. Exercising that control got a lot easier - and less obvious - as technology became available. Traditional informants and enforcers sometimes get noticed, but JOIN...WHERE user.id=foo across phone location data is very hard to discover. The key part, I think, is that COINTELPRO ended in name only. Worse, as the use of the internet increased, the number of times I've had to consider "JTRIG-style disruption, paid corporate shill, or useful idiot" has increased dramatically. While a "silent coup" is one possibility, I have been