Patreon CEO On Lauren Southern, IGD, & Free Speech | Jack Conte | TECH | Rubin Report

The Rubin Report · 147K views · 2017 · 1:10:59

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Why Hacker News recommends it

HN mostly cites it critically, as evidence that Patreon's CEO promised not to ban people for off-platform speech and then did.

What it is

Dave Rubin interviews Patreon CEO Jack Conte about the removal of Lauren Southern's and IGD's accounts, free speech and Patreon's policies.

Recommended by 0 HN commenters across 0 different months, 2017 to 2018.

What Hacker News said

Critical AlwaysBCoding · 2017-08 · on “Inside Patreon, the economic engine of internet culture”

They've already fucked it up. Here's an hour long interview with Patreon's CEO, Jack Conte, where he goes through some ridiculous mental gymnastics trying to justify why it's ok he is kicking conservative journalists off his platform. [this video]

Critical AlwaysBCoding · 2017-11 · on “Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube”

> But then the question becomes what do these guys offer which Patreon doesnt? Patreon censors conservatives off their platform. [Context if you don't know what I'm talking about -- [this video] ] To some non-trivial minority of content creators that is reason enough to not use it. As someone who makes youtube vids and is thinking about scaling a brand, I want nothing to do with a tech platform that believes it should be the sole arbiter of who can and cannot solicit p2p donations/payments for their videos. I want a politically-neutral technology / payment mechanism. Brave seems to be more ideologically aligned with myself, so I would rather go that route. Even though the current iteration has qu

Critical AlwaysBCoding · 2018-12 · on “BitChute Suspended By Patreon”

This is the interview with Patreon CEO Jack Conte alluded to in the blog post. It's really extraordinary to watch. [this video]

Critical cm2187 · 2018-12 · on “Hate Speech on Patreon”

Also in an interview a year ago [1], Patreon's CEO explicitely promised they would not do what they just did. But in this case they are characterising as hate speech the simple use of slang, even when there is no hateful intention. This is just the political correctness ayatollahs becoming over-zealous, which I find hard to justify and certainly won't support with my money. [1] [this video]

Critical manfredo · 2018-12 · on “Patreon Bars Anti-Feminist for Racist Speech, Inciting Revolt”

He used slurs, that's for certain. But it's critical to point out that the context in which they were used was to tell the Alt Right that they're behaving exactly like they see the groups they despise (blacks, Jewish people, gays etc.) through their bigoted worldview. Not to mention, your excerpt cuts off a crucial part of what he said. As other commenters pointed out, the whole part of this was: > It's not about, like, actually doing any good, it's about getting attention. And I see, like, 'kikes are ruining everything'. [laughs] Good—good—good job. Should tackle field [I can't understand this sentence]. You're making your movement look like you're not full of Nazis! Great! Bravo!" In case