Steve Jobs on privacy, Steve Jobs at the D8 Conference (Video)
Why Hacker News recommends it
HN reaches for it constantly as evidence of Apple's long-standing privacy stance and as a yardstick for judging Apple, Facebook and others.
What it is
A short clip of Steve Jobs at the 2010 D8 conference, interviewed by Walt Mossberg, defining privacy as people knowing what they are signing up for, in plain English and repeatedly. The discussion centered on location data.
Recommended by 4 HN commenters across 4 different months, 2017 to 2024.
What Hacker News said
Recommends maxpert · 2017-09 · on “Privacy”
Have used Android for years (I have been using devices like Pro, rooted, custom ROMS, skins whatever you might imagine). Shifted to Apple's echo system 2-3 years ago. It took me some time to get used to iOS but integration across devices (my mac, my iPad, my watch) is simply amazing. I am not going sound like broken record or fan boy here. Apple got me on this video where Steve Jobs really showed how much they care for privacy [this video] the other day my wife got a notification from Google Photos that it prepared our Album from our trip to SFO. We have turned of location tagging and everything, turns out Google is not content with me asking them to leave me alone, they would use ML and whatever
Recommends ssivark · 2018-12 · on “Lawmakers fed up with Zuckerberg”
> Now, how do I do it in a non-evil way? I am presuming here that everyone agrees that should be possible to make that work [...] Apparently Facebook did it the wrong way. Why? I really like Steve Jobs' comments on how to operate, with regards to questions of user privacy: [this video] (3 minutes) While I'm not convinced about the need for devices to be locked down, the rest of his response should be the gold standard in my opinion.
Recommends schoolornot · 2020-07 · on “New iOS privacy feature may end an era of personalized ads”
You're making it sound like there is no business opportunity on Apple's side to mine and sell customer data the way Google does. Why can't we assume they are doing it with the best of intentions? Watch this 10 year old clip of Steve Jobs: [this video] The position is genuine.
Recommends HatchedLake721 · 2022-02 · on “Airbnb wants to GPS track you also when not using the app”
Steve Jobs words 12 years later are still very relevant today [this video] I just want to thank Apple for pushing this agenda forward, introducing things I believe Google would never do themselves first unless pressured. I still remember Apple introducing “track me while using the app only” in a new iOS years ago that stopped companies hoarding live geolocation of every app user. And we still get new bits and bobs every major iOS release. In just last few years we found out apps that unnecessarily scanned for our network devices or used clipboards for no apparent reason. Keep them coming.
Cites SolarUpNote · 2017-09 · on “Apple does right by users and advertisers are displeased”
> Apple has traditionally been very user hostile Here's an interview with Steve Jobs on privacy regarding location data: [this video] Apple takes care of their users.
Cites rblatz · 2017-09 · on “Privacy”
Privacy has been big at Apple for a long time, this video was posted in this thread of Steve Jobs talking about how important privacy is to Apple [this video]
Cites osteele · 2018-03 · on “Facebook denies it collects call and SMS data from phones without permission”
“Privacy means people know what they’re signing up for. In plain English, and repeatedly. That’s what it means. I’m an optimist. I believe people are smart. And some people want to share more data than other people do. Ask them. Ask them every time. Make them tell you to stop asking them if they’re tired of you asking them. Let them know precisely what you’re going to do with their data. That’s what we think.” — Steve Jobs, 2010 WSJ AllThingsD Conference Video: [this video] Transcript: [LINK] Recent article: [LINK]
Cites maire · 2018-05 · on “Apple cracking down on applications that send location data to third-parties”
Apple always took location privacy seriously. I remember an interview between Steve Jobs and Walt Mossberg years ago on this subject. I looked it up again: [this video]