Freeman Dyson: Heretical Thoughts About Science and Society

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Why Hacker News recommends it

HN cites it for Dyson's contrarian take on global warming and soil carbon.

What it is

Freeman Dyson's 2005 Boston University talk on heretical views about science and society. He questions prevailing dogmas, including his argument that climate and CO2 are a land management issue.

Recommended by 2 HN commenters across 2 different months, 2014 to 2023.

What Hacker News said

Recommends grondilu · 2017-07 · on “The Uninhabitable Earth”

If you feel like watching more hopeful content on the subject, there is Allan Savory's TED talk about how to stop desertification[1], and Freeman Dyson's speech called "heretic thoughts about science and society"[2]. Basically, those speakers suggest climate change is an issue that can be solved with better land management . Soil is extremely good at absorbing Carbon Dioxide. Isn't it why there is so little CO2 in the atmosphere (0.04%)? We just need to make sure the process does indeed happen. When one looks at the map of Earth, the vastness of the desert areas is scary. Yet there are reasons to believe this is relatively recent. The Sahara was wet few thousands years ago, the American dese

Recommends didericis · 2020-02 · on “Freeman Dyson Has Died”

I disagree about him hand-waving away quantitative arguments. I’ve watched a number of relatively lengthy interviews and presentations he’s given that have been about or have touched on the topic of climate change, and he consistently references measurements of carbon’s effects and emphasizes the importance of real world measurements. His criticism is of abstract models of climate that attempt to make long term predictions. If you’re most familiar with his positions through quotes and third hand reporting, I encourage you to listen to videos of him. I found him quite enjoyable to listen to. He was not the partisan he was sometimes painted as, although he was interviewed by people that were,

Cites grondilu · 2014-11 · on “What It Would Really Take to Reverse Climate Change”

In his lecture called "Heretical Thoughts About Science and Society"[1], Freeman Dyson[2] states: "the problem of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is a problem of land management, not a problem of meteorology". This is based on a calculus of the yearly increase in thickness averaged over one half of the land area of the planet, if all the carbon we're emitting by burning fossil fuel were turned into biomass by photosynthesis. This yearly increase is one hundredth of an inch, and illustrates the "very favorable rate of exchange between carbon in the atmosphere and carbon in the soil". 1. [this video] 2. [LINK]

Cites grondilu · 2016-10 · on “CO2 levels mark 'new era' in the world's changing climate”

"[...] all the fuss about global warming is grossly exaggerated. [...] There is no doubt that parts of the world are getting warmer, but the warming is not global. I am not saying that the warming does not cause problems. Obviously it does. Obviously we should be trying to understand it better. I am saying that the problems are grossly exaggerated. They take away money and attention from other problems that are more urgent and more important, such as poverty and infectious disease and public education and public health, and the preservation of living creatures on land and in the oceans, not to mention easy problems such as the timely construction of adequate dikes around the city of New Orle

Cites mangodrunk · 2017-03 · on “Scientists want to create ‘red teams’ to challenge climate research”

Perhaps a better example would be Freeman Dyson. Here's a video of him talking about questioning the status quo: Freeman Dyson: Heretical Thoughts About Science and Society. [1] In which, he also questions global warming, or at least to the degree in which it will affect us. [1] [this video]

Cites grondilu · 2018-12 · on “Can Dirt Save the Earth?”

There is also Freeman Dyson's talk called "heretics thoughts" according to which global warming is mainly a land management issue. [this video]

Cites oa335 · 2023-02 · on “Amazon Funds Seaweed Farming at Offshore Wind Farm to Test CO2 Capture”

On a related note, Freeman Dyson mentions that an 1/10th of an inch per year of topsoil to the Earths area that currently has soil, would sequester all the carbon all the carbon we release each year. [this video] see around minute 13.