[1299] Unpickable Locks From Stuff Made Here

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Strong rec yccs27 · 2022-04 · on “High-Security Mechanical Locks (2020)”

On the topic of "novel, non-pin-tumbler mechanisms": I can recommend the videos by Stuff Made Here [1][2], where he designs two novel anti-picking lock mechanisms, and the related video [3] where LockPickingLawyer tries to pick and bypass them. Together they give a whole new understanding of lock design and picking methods. [1] [LINK] [2] [LINK] [3] [this video]

Strong rec harrisi · 2022-06 · on “Enclave: An Unpickable Lock”

The interaction of engineering and "use" by the Lock Picking Lawyer ( [this video] ) was fascinating - "use" here really meaning "exploiting". It's a problem many here are aware of, either by over-engineering things intended for use by non-engineers, or designing things to be used by customers when the designer isn't intimately familiar with the use. In this case it was sort of somewhere in between. I'm currently an operator of heavy machinery in a factory making tools for the wafer industry, although my main career is in software development. I'm actively working with the tools and software used to get a better understanding of the disconnect between engineering and operations. It's been a great

Recommends infogulch · 2021-09 · on “O.mg Cable”

Since this has generated some discussion on locks and picking, there's been some interesting developments on "unpickable locks" that sidestep the tolerance problem by decoupling setting the pins from testing them. I.e. pins are tested all at once after they are physically decoupled from the key & keyway, eliminating state space reduction attacks (aka picking one pin at a time) leaving only brute force. One such effort features locks made by Stuff Made Here sent to Lock Picking Lawyer. According to LPL the locks are theoretically sound and he did not attempt to pick them, but these particular implementations had a couple (easily fixable) bypasses. Made for interesting videos on both sides: St

Recommends binarymax · 2022-06 · on “Enclave: An Unpickable Lock”

This looks very similar to the design[0] by Stuff Made Here (and collaborative hardening [1] suggestions by Lock Picking Lawyer)…an excellent set of videos. [LINK] [this video]

Recommends mizzao · 2022-06 · on “Enclave: An Unpickable Lock”

For others who might not have seen it, here's what the Lockpicking Lawyer had to say about that. He picked a lock with the same concept by swighton (Stuff Made Here), but exploited a flaw that had nothing to do with the mechanism. [this video] I think one problem here is that the more complicated you make a locking mechanism, the more you suffer by increasing the attack surface with other potential flaws or just the lock being physically weaker (i.e. smashable). Kinda like how the most advanced cryptography is usually broken because someone made an error in the complexity of implementing it.

Cites ryzvonusef · 2021-11 · on “Saintcon: Lock Picking Lawyer Keynote”

are you perhaps talking about the forever lock? [LINK] while difficult, it can be undone ----- making a one-off "unpickable" lock is possible, here is some to-and fro between two youtube channels about such locks: Stuff Made Here: [LINK] [LINK] Lock Picking Lawyer: [this video] But things from installation issues, to making sure tolerances are maintained while making the locks on a production line, mean that there are always some gaps left in a mass produced and installed lock.

Cites mgdlbp · 2022-06 · on “Enclave: An Unpickable Lock”

LPL was actually challenged a year ago with unpickable prototypes made by an engineering YouTuber, Stuff Made Here: [this video] (see also description)