The Encryption Tightrope: Balancing Americans’ Security and Privacy: EventID=104573

House Committee on the Judiciary · 174K views · 2016 · 5:31:07

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Why Hacker News recommends it

HN users cite it as primary-source testimony, especially for the argument that weakening encryption is security versus security, not privacy versus security.

What it is

A 2016 House Judiciary Committee hearing on encryption, held during the Apple and FBI iPhone dispute. It features testimony from Apple, the FBI and outside experts including Susan Landau, and runs over five hours.

Recommended by 3 HN commenters across 2 different months, 2016 to 2017.

What Hacker News said

Strong rec rietta · 2016-03 · on “FBI Wants It to Be Impractical to Deploy Strong Encryption Without Key Escrow”

It has been explained to them multiple times in congressional hearings. If you have a long time, the recent House Judiciary Committee Hearing is worth the watch: The Encryption Tightrope: Balancing Americans’ Security and Privacy [this video] There was another one that I watched back in June, but I cannot find the video at the moment. Should have bookmarked it! In the rietta.com article, I linked the this hearing, starting with Susan Landau's testimony starting at [this video] . But there is more must watch portions of the hearing. I like GnuPG and I use it regularly with work as does my team. And some of our clients do too, but not nearly enough. But my mom and dad are never going to use it. They do

Recommends alblue · 2016-03 · on “FBI’s Comey Concedes Mistake Was Made Over iPhone in San Bernardino Case”

I sat through the YouTube presentation (which is available at [this video] if you have four hours to spare). In general the discussions were quite well presented, apart from a couple of rabid questioners suggesting that public security trumped any one individuals' right to personal security. I've written up a summary of the hearings at InfoQ here: [LINK] The general responses from Apple were that it wouldn't be possible to write this just for one phone; that once the FBiOS was available for one it would be available for any phone. Dr Landon also highlighted the fact that most people now use their phones as part of a two-factor authentication, and that the easiest way to break into a system (such

Recommends pdkl95 · 2017-05 · on “FBI director Comey backs new Feinstein push for decrypt bill”

Susan Landau's congressional testimony - with Comey siting one table away - applies to this as well. She explains in detail not only the problem with backdoors, but also how the FBI badly needs to update their methods. The quote from the NSA that legal access doesn't mean that access will be easy should have ended this brouhaha last year. [this video]

Cites alblue · 2016-03 · on “Apple, FBI testify before Congress”

This presents a summary of the congressional hearing "The Encryption Tightrope – Balancing American's Security and Privacy" that was covered live on YouTube [this video] A replay of the event is now available but the news piece summarises the important parts of the discussion.

Cites ibejoeb · 2016-03 · on “FBI’s Comey Concedes Mistake Was Made Over iPhone in San Bernardino Case”

Lots of interesting stuff in this session. "We are a rule-of-law country. The FBI is not cracking into your phone or listening to your communications except under the rule of law," says Comey (1:37). I suppose that's the NSA's job... [this video]

Cites studentrob · 2016-03 · on “FBI’s Comey Concedes Mistake Was Made Over iPhone in San Bernardino Case”

I'd love to see a transcript [2], or list of participants [4] and find out which representatives present lean towards Apple or towards the FBI. I skipped around the video. I mostly saw support for Apple, with a few exceptions, one being Mr. Sensenbrenner. Mr. Sensenbrenner, a House republican of Wisconsin, asked Apple what legislation they would support, and Mr. Sewell, Apple's general counsel, said they support debate on the subject [1] The congressman was clearly bullying Mr. Sewell here and using his position as congressman to make it appear as though Apple is not being agreeable. Well, encouraging debate before writing one-sided legislation sounds like great teamwork to me. The congressm

Cites sigmar · 2016-03 · on “Congress finally showed it's willing to fight the FBI on encryption”

I watched most of the hearing (can be viewed here [this video] ), this article seems like a pretty accurate characterization. Comey's parsing of words in his response to the question of whether any gov't agency can access the phone reminded me of Clapper's "least untruthful" answer (ie his lie about NSA data collection).

Cites studentrob · 2016-03 · on “Congress finally showed it's willing to fight the FBI on encryption”

> The debate is shifting to "public security vs privacy" instead of Apple vs FBI, which is how a lot of the consumers and Apple fans see this right now Actually Apple is painting it as a "security vs. security" debate [1] [2]. They point out that every iPhone user's security is put at risk if they are forced to sign software that weakens the iPhone's security. > I rather enjoyed hearing Comey's responses and found Bruce Sewell to lack the same maturity and preparedness I thought Sewell performed well. He was given some tough questions he could not have anticipated. Sewell was the one on the hot seat here. Comey did not face as much pressure. [1] [this video] [2] [this video]