Jordan Peterson | ContraPoints
Why Hacker News recommends it
HN mostly cites it as the go-to critique of Peterson when his positions or advice come up.
What it is
ContraPoints' long-form video response to Jordan Peterson, critiquing his ideas including his use of the term postmodern neo-Marxism. It is delivered in her theatrical essay style.
Recommended by 1 HN commenters across 1 different months, 2018 to 2021.
What Hacker News said
Recommends cassepipe · 2021-09 · on “Peter Pan, Existentialist Fairy Tale? (2017)”
Well if you're posting about videos of Jordan Peterson I might as well post an informative, charitable, opinionated and entertaining (to me) video from Contrapoints about who he is and what he's doing. Enjoy : [this video]
Cites mayniac · 2018-05 · on “Understanding Victimhood Culture”
I honestly don't think these interviewees know what they're talking about. The most objective argument I have to support this is that they keep talking about "whites" as a race. Never "white Americans", "caucasians", "white europeans" etc etc, just "whites" or "white people". Which is hugely problematic considering the entire concept of white as a race is incredibly modern. Before the 19th century, there wasn't a concept of whiteness, you belonged to a nation rather than a race. And it kind of makes sense, since where do you even draw the line on white? Are Egyptians white (Rami Malek...)? What about much of the middle east, many Syrians could pass for either white or Arabic? Or some western
Critical tomlock · 2018-12 · on “Ask HN: Favorite nonfiction books of 2018?”
Also here's a great video that might help Peterson fans understand some of the problems with his positions: [this video]
Critical pa7ch · 2019-01 · on “The money, job, marriage myth: are you happy yet?”
Not everything he says is off base and he does present the basics of clinical psychology well. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is an interesting field one can gain a lot from studying. However many things he talks or just hints at can be questional and neither his expertise nor fairly presented. It helps his cause that many criticisms of him are terrible and involve many fabrications. This youtube channel contra points is a much better criticism then mine: [this video]
Critical mayniac · 2019-02 · on “Schools in England Introduce a New Subject: Mindfulness”
Not specific to philosophers, but Contrapoints has a good breakdown of why the term "postmodern neo-marxists", which JBP uses a number of times throughout the book, shows a complete misunderstanding of modern philosophy. [1] Not related to 12 rules, but Cuck Philosophy goes into JBP's lectures where he references postmodernism and again appears to completely misunderstand the fundamentals. [2] [1] [this video] (probably NSFW) [2] [LINK]
Critical mercer · 2019-04 · on “Ask HN: What are good resources for life advice?”
> The tough part for me to communicate here is how _ironic_ your assumption here is. You are _literally_ doing what Peterson argues is the feminine and chaotic. You are playing the role of the overprotective mother. I don't know if irony is the right word for it, but I find it interesting that you've been arguing that Petersons man-order/woman-chaos is somehow not normative and negative to women, and then go and use 'feminine and chaotic' in a pretty much purely negative way. What I find more interesting is that this exemplifies what bothers me about Peterson schtick. So much of what he says isn't actually saying all that much, because it's couched in "one could argue that", "I'm just observ