The Empire Strikes Back - the original Emperor from 1980

MielR · 7.3M views · 2006 · 0:58

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Science Fiction & Fantasy Stack Exchange users link it as proof of what the original theatrical version of the Emperor scene actually said and showed, such as the "son of Skywalker" line.

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What it is

A 58-second clip of the Emperor hologram scene from the original 1980 theatrical cut of The Empire Strikes Back, with Clive Revill's voice and Marjorie Eaton's face. The uploader explains the casting history and notes it was replaced by Ian McDiarmid in the 2004 DVD and is absent from the Blu-ray.

What people said

Cites Plutor · 2015-01 · Science Fiction & Fantasy Stack Exchange · on “When and how does Vader learn that Luke is his son?”

During the Battle of Yavin, it's fairly clear that Vader does not know that Luke is his son. Or at least, he doesn't sense a familial connection (and he doesn't sense one with Leia either, despite being in the same room with her at least three times). The closest he gets with Luke is sensing his Force abilities during the Battle: VADER: The Force is strong with this one! But by the beginning of The Empire Strikes Back , he is aware of Luke Skywalker and knows that he's a member of the Rebellion. When his probe discovers the Rebels on Hoth: OZZEL: My Lord, there are so many uncharted settlements. It could be smugglers, it could be— VADER: That is the system. And I'm sure Skywalker is with the

Cites Hypnosifl · 2015-11 · Science Fiction & Fantasy Stack Exchange · on “When do we first hear the name "Anakin"?”

@George T - In the original theatrical version of that scene he just says "son of Skywalker", you can see it on youtube at [this video]

Cites Valorum · 2015-12 · Science Fiction & Fantasy Stack Exchange · on “When do we first hear the name "Anakin"?”

The first in-canon mention of Vader's true name (within the original unimproved trilogy) is in RotJ, during the scene where Luke speaks with the Force-ghost of Kenobi. LUKE: You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father. BEN: You father was seduced by the dark side of the Force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened, the good man who was your father was destroyed. So what I have told you was true... from a certain point of view. That being said, there's absolutely no indication that Luke doesn't already know this name and it would be very odd if he hadn't known it from childhood. You may be fooled into thinking that there was an earlier reference in